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This might be caused by using non-compatible sensors, a false contact by one of the sensor wires or an issue on the grouding.
 
Check step by step the following possible rootcauses:
- Check if you have connected compatible sensors. See the EngiBOX manual and FAQ for compatible sensors.
- Check power connections and make sure you have a direct power connection between the mass of the engine and the EngiBOX power terminal. 
- Disconnect all sensors and re-connect each sensor individually each at the time and check if each sensor is creating erratic values. Step by step add 1 sensor to assure if one of the sensor wires is loose and makes a false contact.
- Check if the issue might have a relation with the problem and solution reported in FAQ "With high values of RPM (or RPM not yet stable) the OIL P, OIL T and CHT values show unusual jumps and are incostant"
Make sure you connect the grey RPM signal cable (grey cable pickup coil ) from the engine to the EngiBOX RPM +/+ input. Leave the EngiBOX RPM -/- input free.

Additional info:

when the 2-stroke engine lighting coil is connected to a battery via a regulator/rectifier the gray RPM signal cable might give erratic RPM readings around mid-range power. Installing a 10k Ohm resistor inline between the gray RPM signal cable and the RPM +/+ input  on the EngiBOX will resolve this problem. (This resistor is not  included in in the ENGIBOX box). The grey RPM signal cable lead will not give a good tach reading when one of the two mags is turned off, as the signal on this wire comes from one of the mags.
Make sure you connect the grey RPM signal cable (grey cable pickup coil ) from the engine to the EngiBOX RPM +/+ input. Leave the EngiBOX RPM -/- input free.
When the 2-stroke engine lighting coil is connected to a battery via a regulator/rectifier the gray RPM signal cable might give erratic RPM readings around mid-range power.
Installing a 10k Ohm resistor inline between the gray RPM signal cable and the RPM +/+ input  on the EngiBOX will resolve this problem. (This resistor is not  included in in the ENGIBOX box). The gray RPM signal cable lead will not give a good tach reading when one of the two mags is turned off, as the signal on this wire comes from one of the mags.

There are 3 possible causes:

1. The thermocouple sensor connected to the EngiBOX is "grounded". The EngiBOX requires an "ungrounded" thermocouple sensor.

2. The thermpocouple sensor type selected on the EngiBOX is different from the thermocouple connected to the EngiBOX (example: Type K versus Type J)

3. Thermcouple +/+ and -/- wires are inverted when connected to  the EngiBOX. Check the sensor specification which wire is positieve and which wire is negative.

The Rotax 912 engines have a 5th trigger coil for the purposes of electrically monitoring rev counts. This trigger coil outputs to a two-wire harness (the two wires can either be white/yellow or blue/yellow). Independent from the colour, connect either of the two wires to EngiBOX RPM -/-  and connect the other wire to EngiBOX RPM +/+.
When an standard rotax NTC type (one wire) resistance thermometer sensor is used for OIL Temp or Coolant Temp or CHT  Sensor, make sure that the mass of the engine and the negative EngiBOX power terminal are electrically connected. Furthermore, in order to limit disturbance on the sensors make sure you have a dedicated connection between the mass of the engine and the EngiBOX ground terminal.


When an optional PT-100 type sensor (two wires) resistance thermometer is used for OIL Temp or Coolant Temp or CHT  Sensor, make sure that the both wires are connected correctly to the EngiBOX.

Issue could be caused by some rust on the sensor, or the sensor itself is not aligned. Please try to clean and
re-align it. Please also verify if the pickup cable is not too much close to the other pickup cables and power cables. In this case outdistance it from them.

In case the problem is not fixed please try to apply a 220ohm or 330ohm (and at least 1/2 watt) resistor in parallel installed between RPM+ and RPM-

The issue is caused by the fluctuations of the GND in relation to the power. 
it is possible to fix the issue istalling a capacitor or 1000µF between the Power+  and the Power- (value shall be at least 25V) of the board.

To use the EngiBOX RPM in parallel with another RPM instrument depends on the capacity of the other instrument. EngiBOX applies a 100 ohm load on RPM. Verify if the other RPM instrument is able to correctly measure RPM with a 100 ohm load applied between RPM input and instrument ground. This is equivalent to EngiBOX RPM usage in parallel with another RPM instrument.

If the other RPM instrument is NOT able to correctly measure RPM with a 100 ohm load (example; it stops working when you connect the EngiBOX in parallel) it is probably possible to "by-pass" the problem by applying a 100 ohm resistor in series between the engine RPM source and EngiBOX input (RPM +) and connect the other instrument directly to the RPM source (see image)



As the value of the resistance depends on many factors, it is possible that 100 ohm is not enough.

In that case it might be necessary to proceed step by step as described in the following steps:

 

0 - Start applying a 1K ohm resistor in series between RPM source and EngiBOX input (in this step the second RPM instrument must NOT be connected)

1 - Check the correct functioning of the Engibox: if EngiBOX is not working properly it is necessary to decrease the resistor value slowly.

2 – Once you found the value for which the EngiBOX starts to work properly, it is possible to connect the second instrument.

3 - If the second instrument also works correctly then the problem is solved, otherwise it is necessary to increase the resistor value and check restart again at point 2.

4 - Proceed in this way until the right resistance value is found for which both devices work properly.

NO, sensor probes are not included in the EngiBOX package. 

EngiBOX is compatible with Rotax engines. The Rotax engine comes with sensors for OIL T, CHT, and OIL P readings. EngiBOX is compatible with these sensors that standard are delivered with the Rotax engine. Refer to the EngiBOX manual for the rotax sensor type and part number to check compatibility. As Rotax does not deliver standard sensor probes for EGT readings, AvMap offers separately AvMap EGT thermocouple sensors that are compatible with the EngiBOX.

 

AvMap EGT thermocouple sensor is ungrounded, type K and  screw in type version and includes a M8x1 weld boss for connection to the exhaust bend. The AvMap EGT thermocouple sensor is available for purchase at an authorized AvMap reseller or directly at the AvMap web shop at www.avmap.it.

 

The installation manual is available here: AvMap EGT Probe

EngiBOX requires to connect UNGROUDED thermocouple sensors, type K or J. How the thermocouple sensor gets connected to the engine exhaust bend is not relevant for the EngiBOX.

Although, referring to the Rotax installation manual for 912 and 914 engine series, AvMap suggest to follow Rotax instructions for connecting
  the thermocouple sensor using a screw-in type to be connected to the exhaust bend on  the connection thread M8x1.

Check if the connection thread M8x1 for attachment of the thermocouple sensor is already provided in the exhaust bend. Check FAQ “How can I install screw-in type thermocouple sensors on my Rotax Engine?” for more information on this subject.
 

AvMap EGT thermocouple sensor is ungrounded, type K and  screw in type version and includes a M8x1 weld boss for connection to the exhaust bend. The AvMap EGT thermocouple sensor is available for purchase at an authorized AvMap reseller or directly at the AvMap web shop at www.avmap.it.

 

The installation manual is available here: AvMap EGT Probe

AvMap suggests to use AvMap EGT thermocouple sensors or Rotax EGT thermocouple sensors (PN. 966370), both require a connection thread M8x1 on the exhaust bend and both sensors are ungrounded which is a requirement to be compatible with the EngiBOX.

Check if the connection thread M8x1 for attachment of the thermocouple sensor is already provided in the exhaust bend.

Case 1) Action Connection thread M8x1 is provided in the exhaust bends:

Connect the thermocouple sensor to the connection thread M8x1 of the desired exhaust bend by screwing it in and fasten it tight. 

Case 2) Connection thread M8x1 is NOT provided in the exhaust bends:

In this case you can order the AvMap EGT thermocouple sensor (M8x1 weld boss included)  from AvMap, or order the Rotax EGT thermocouple sensors (PN. 966370) + M8x1 weld boss (PN.842758) from a Rotax reseller.

Install the M8x1 weld boss on the exhaust bend. Consult the Rotax installation manual and the aircraft manufacturer that installed the engine on the aircraft for identifying the correct position on the exhaust bend for exhaust gas temperature readings. After identifying the correct position make a 12mm (0.47”) diameter hole in the exhaust bend and insert the M8x1 weld boss in the exhaust bend 12 mm (0.47”) diameter hole and attach the M8x1 weld boss to the exhaust bend by welding it. Connect the thermocouple sensor to the M8x1 weld boss by screwing it in and fasten it tight

 

AvMap EGT thermocouple sensor is ungrounded, type K and  screw in type version and includes a M8x1 weld boss for connection to the exhaust bend. The AvMap EGT thermocouple sensor is available for purchase at an authorized AvMap reseller or directly at the AvMap web shop at www.avmap.it.

 

The installation manual is available here: AvMap EGT Probe
Latest Software version for the EngiBOX is v.1.1.0R. You can check on the ABOUT page the software version that is loaded on your device. 
If the software is older than 1.1.0R you can contact [email protected] in order to receive instructions for updating your device. Communicate your EngiBOX model number, serial number and current software loaded on the device.

First check if a compatible oil pressure sender is connected to the EngiBOX.

The first generation EngiBOX (model number UX0EMS00AM) is compatible with the oil pressure sender Keller 4-20 mA (Rotax P/N: 456180), which has a measuring range from 0 to 10 bar (0 - 150 psi).

The second generation EngiBOX (model number UX0EMS10AM) is compatible with oil pressure sender Keller 4-20 mA (Rotax P/N 456180) and resistive VDO sensor (Rotax P/N 956357 /  956415 ) or equivalent, both with measuring range from 0 to 10 bar (0 - 150 psi).

 

After wiring the  oil pressure sender to the EngiBOX, for the second generation EngiBOX (model number UX0EMS10AM) it is important to set the OIL P switch (on the rear side of the EngiBOX) to “ON” (position “2”) if you connected the Keller sender, or set the OIL P switch to “OFF” (position “1”) if you connected the resistive VDO sender. (see also page 10 of the User and Installation Manual).

Note: The OIL P switch is not present on the first generation EngiBOX as this model is only compatible with the Keller type sender.

 

After installation the correct sensor type needs to be selected during initialization setup.  It is possible to change the sensor type in the EngiBOX sensor menu. Check in the sensor menu if the correct  type of sender has been selected for oil pressure ( Keller 4-20mA or VDO ).

Unstable readings can be caused by a false contact of the sensor wire on the EngiBOX.

It is important to use the wire lock system to tighten all wires together that are connected to the EngiBOX (see figure 7 at page 11 of the User and Installation Manual). The wire lock system ensures that wires will not lose connection with the EngiBOX due to vibration in flight.

To see if the sensor wire is well connected  to the EngiBOX try to pull out the wire on the Engibox side, if the wire stays connected it means that it is well connected.

IMPORTANT: The oil pressure sender cannot be used in parallel with another instrument. Connect the oil pressure sender only to the EngiBOX.

IMPORTANT: Using non-compatible sensors  on the other parameter  inputs (OIL T, CHT or Coolant, EGT)  can cause false or erratic readings for the oil pressure. Make sure you connect compatible sensors on the EngiBOX as specified in the User and Installation Manual

For OIL T and CHT or Coolant use the correct resistance thermometer

For EGT use the correct thermocouple type K (ungrounded).

(To check the compatibility of the sensors please visit the FAQ: "Which sensors are compatible with Engibox?")


On the EGT value itself it might be difficult to find errors, BUT the wrong GROUNDED thermocouple sensor probe will cause erratic readings in all other engine parameters measured by the EngibOX (RPM, OIL P, OIL T, CHT).

Use a digital tester in "continuity test" mode (you can set it moving the rotor to the icon with the "speaker" symbol).

First test the digital tester itself:  Touch the red and black metallic points one with the other one and verify there is continuity (you will hear a "beep" sound).
Then test the thermocouple sensor probe with the Digital tester:
Place one contact of the digital tester on one of thermocouple wires (metallic part).
Place the other contact of the digital tester on the metallic part of the sensor probe that is in contact with engine.
If the digital tester detect that there is electrical continuity you hear the "beep" sound and you know that the thermocouple is grounded and not supported by the EngiBOX. If there is no electrical continuity you and you will not hear the "beep" sound you know that the thermocouple is ungrounded and supported by the EngiBOX.

 NO. EngiBOX supports only UNGROUNDED thermocouple sensor probes.

For the first generation EngiBOX model number UX0EMS00AM the following sensors are compatible:
 
 
4 x INPUT Thermocouple (type K)

Application: 
- Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) (2 Stroke / 4 Stroke)
- Cylinder Head Temperature (CHT) (2 Stroke)
 
2 x INPUT Thermoresistance (PT-100)

Application:
- Air Temperature, Coolant Temperature (2 Stroke)
- Oil Temperature, Cylinder Head Temperature / Coolant
- Temperature (4 Stroke)
 
1 x INPUT Oil Pressure pick-up (4-20 mA Rotax 456-180 or equivalent)

Measuring range: 0.75 to 10.75 bar
Application: Oil Pressure (4 Stroke)
 
1 x RPM pick-up

Measuring range: 100 to 9990 rpm

1 x INPUT Manifold Pressure

Measuring range: 200 to 2500 hPa
 
 
 
 
 
 
For the second generation EngiBOX model number UX0EMS10AM the following sensors are compatible:
 
 
4 x INPUT Thermocouple (type K and J)
 
Type K Rotax P/N: 966370
Type J Rotaz P/N: NA
 
Application: 
- Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) (2 Stroke / 4 Stroke)
- Cylinder Head Temperature (CHT) (2 Stroke)
 
 
 
2 x INPUT Thermoresistance (PT-100 and NTC)
 
NTC Rotax P/N:    965530 and 965531
PT-100 Rotax P/N: 966385
 
Application:
- Air Temperature, Coolant Temperature (2 Stroke)
- Oil Temperature, Cylinder Head Temperature / Coolant
- Temperature (4 Stroke)
 
 
 
 
1 x INPUT Oil Pressure pick-up (4-20 mA Rotax 456-180 or equivalent and VDO resistive 10 bar/150 psi)
 
Keller 4-20 mA Rotax P/N: 456180
VDO resistive Rotax P/N: 956357  /  956415
 
 
Measuring range: 0 to 10 bar / 0 to 150 psi
Application: Oil Pressure (4 Stroke)
 
 
1 x RPM pick-up

Measuring range: 0 to 9990 rpm
 
 
 
1 x INPUT Manifold Pressure

Measuring range: 0 to 70 inHG





 
 
Note: Thermocouple and Manifold pressure input can be used in parallel with other measurement
devices.
 
WARNING: Thermocouple, PT-100 and Oil pressure sensors must not be referred to GND or
negative external power.

Thermoresistance sensors (OIL T, CHT, CT and Air T) and OIL Pressure cannot be used in parallel with other measurement instruments
 
Power supply
Power the EngiBOX from an 10 to 35 Vdc supply. Mount on the power wire (RED) the 1A fuse holder, provided in the box, to protect against short circuits.
 
Serial Connection
The EngiBOX has serial RS232 connection ports to interface to an external device.
Note: current software 1.1.0R does not support serial in/out interface.
Wires safety
 
 
 
 
 
 
1. Press and hold the knob for 5 seconds, the Menu page will appear.
To go back to the main pages, press again for 5 seconds, or wait: the Menu page will be closed automatically after 10 seconds of inactivity.
2. Rotate the knob to select About item and press to confirm
3. In the about page you can read: the EngiBOX ID, Boot version, Loader version, Software version, Engine
type, Total lifetime of the engine and Time since last overhaul.


IMPORTANT: the EngiBOX ID is needed to register your EngiBOX through the EngiBOX APP, in order to download data and get customer support.
1. press and hold the knob for 5 seconds, the Menu page will appear.
To go back to the main pages, press again for 5 seconds, or wait: the Menu page will be closed automatically after 10 seconds of inactivity.

2. Rotate the knob to select SETTINGS and press to confirm

3. Rotate the knob to select BRIGHTNESS and press to confirm

4. Press the knob to open the brightness controller
• Rotate the knob to choose the desired display brightness
• Press the knob again to close the brightness controller

5. Rotate the knob to choose BACK and press to confirm and exit.


• 2 stroke Air cooled: Rotax 447 UL SCDI, Rotax 503 UL DCDI
• 2 Stroke Liquid cooled: Rotax 582 UL DCDI, Rotax 618 UL DCDI
• 4 Stroke Liquid cooled: Rotax 912 DCDI series, Rotax 912S DCDI series, Rotax 914 DCDI series

These engines types are already pre-configured in EngiBOX, so you just need to choose your model in the initialization procedure. The engine initialization procedure is necessary to pair EngiBOX to the connected engine
model.

EngiBOX has several sensor input ports, which can be occupied variably according to the connected
engine type.

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WARRANTY

AvMap navigators are guaranteed for 2 years after  the purchase date.